Newsletter Number #168  ( Xmas issue 2005 A.D. Gaurabda 519 )
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All Glories To Srila Prabhupad.

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Welcome to the latest edition of the on-line HKSRNewsletter, and our humble attempt to render some service to the devotee community. The format of this newsletter is that of a continuous scroll, please see the table of contents where everything is hyper-linked on-line, we hope it's now easier for you all. This newsletter now goes out to way over 2508 receivers. We trust that all is well with everyone by the Mercy of the Lord. However, if anyone would like to be removed please just send us a message requesting me to do so, and we will do it promptly. If you are receiving this from a friend, and would like to be added directly to the mailout please also let us know and we will do the needful there too. Removal and Subscription details at the very end of this newsletter.

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"May there be good fortune throughout the universe, and may all envious persons be pacified. May all living entities become calm by practicing bhakti-yoga, for by accepting devotional service they will think of each other’s welfare. Therefore let us all engage in the service of the supreme transcendence, Lord Sri Krishna, and always remain absorbed in thought of Him."(Srimad Bhagavatam 5:18:9.)

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The Nectar in this Issue 

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The present year's Vaishnava Calendar for 2005-2006
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(some selected locations are available already below)

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupada - Disappearance - Tirubhav (Fasting till noon)

Christmas Day - Xmas Madness - 25th December 2005

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Saphala Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 27th December 2005  in NZ)

Sri Devananda Pandit - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sri Mahesa Pandit - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Sri Uddharana Datta - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sri Locana Das Thakur - Appearance - Avirbhav

Srila Jiva Goswami - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Sri Jagadisa Pandit - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Putrada Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 10th January 2005  in NZ)

Sri Jagadisa Pandit - Appearance - Avirbhav

Sri Krsna Pusya abhisheka
14th January 2006 - Makara Sankranti (Sun enters Capricorn) all about Makara sankranti

Sri Ramacandra Kaviraja - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Srila Gopal Bhatta Goswami - Appearance - Avirbhav

Sri Jayadeva Goswami - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Sri Locana Das Thakur - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Sat-tila Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 26th February 2006  in NZ)

Sri Ganga Sagara Mela

3rd Feb 2006 Friday the following occur on:
Sri Vasanta Pancami
Srimati Visnupriya Devi - Appearance - Avirbhav
Srimati Sarasvati Puja
Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakur - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Sri Pundarika Vidyanidhi - Appearance - Avirbhav
Sri Raghunandana Thakur - Appearance - Avirbhav
Sri Raghunatha Das Goswami - Appearance - Avirbhav

5th February 2006 Sunday
Sri Advaita Acarya - Appearance - Avirbhav (Fasting till noon)

6th February 2006 Monday - public holiday for Waitangi day

Sri Bhismastami

Sripad Madhvacarya - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sripad Ramanujacarya - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Bhaimi Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 9th February 2006  in NZ)

10th February 2006 Friday  Dvadasi

Sri Varaha Dvadasi - Appearance of Lord Varaha deva
 (The fast is observed till noon on the Ekadasi.) (Feasting is done today.)

11th February 2006 Saturday
Sri Nityananda Trayodasi - Appearance of Nityananda Prabhu  (Fasting till noon)

Sri Krsna Madhura utsava
Srila Narottama Das Thakur - Appearance - Avirbhav
Kumbha Sankranti (Sun enters Aquarius)

18th February 2006 for the following:
Sri Purusottama Das Thakur - Disappearance - Tirubhav
HH Gour Govinda Swami -- Disappearance - Tirubhav
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Prabhupad - Appearance - Avirbhav - (Fasting till noon)

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Vijaya Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 25th February 2006  in NZ)

Sripad Isvara Puri - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sri Shiva Ratri - Appearance Day of Lord Shiva (27th February 2006 in NZ)

 1st March 2006 for the following:
Srila Jagannatha Das Babaji - Disappearance - Tirubhav
Sri Rasikananda - Disappearance - Tirubhav
HH Tamal Krishna Goswami  - Disappearance - Tirubhav
HG Vrindavaneswari devi dasi - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sri Purusottama Das Thakur - Appearance - Avirbhav

Fasting on Suddha Ekadasi for Amalaki vrata Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 10th March 2006  in NZ)

Sripad Madhavendra Puri - Disappearance - Tirubhav

15th March 2006 (Wednesday)  Holika Purnima        (Holi)
Sri Krishna Chaitanya (Gauranga) Mahaprabhu - Appearance - Avirbhav
*** Gaura Purnima *** (Fasting Ekadasi style untill moonrise)

Penumbral Lunar Eclipse (do not cook, eat, etc. Only Chant Hare Krishna) see eclipses-page

Mina Sankranti (Sun enters Pisces)

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kada va kriyate kim va phalam kim va vadasva me

ka va pujyatama tatra devata sad-gunarnava
akurvatah syat ko dosa etan me vaktum arhasi

"Oh Gurudeva! When did Ekadasi take birth and from whom did she appear? What are the rules of fasting on the Ekadasi? Please describe the benefits of following this vow and when it should be followed. Who is the utmost worshippable presiding deity of Sri Ekadasi? What are the faults in not following Ekadasi properly? Please bestow your mercy upon me and tell about these subjects, as you are the only personality able to do so."

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GBC Vaishnava Calendar Comittee - Vaisnava Calendar Calculation
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The present year's Vaishnava Calendar for 2005-2006
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(some selected locations are available already below)

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New service just launched - a Free Vaisnava Calendar Email Reminder Service (BETA) where devotees can sign up and receive automated location sensitive reminders of ekadasi's, festivals, appearance and disappearance days via email.

Festivals on the Vrindavan Calendar
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Time Zones and Countries World-wide:
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This Vaishnava Calendar Reminder is so simple, so nice and so practical
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"This software aimed to be a personal information manager of anyone in Krishna's devotee community. Did you ever miss Ekadasi? With Vaishnava Reminder it will not be so easy - it alerts you about fasting days. Also it has built-in vaishnava calendar generator, to-do tasks, custom events, diary and panchang. And it is 100% free - just visit http://www.vreminder.tk and download it. It quietly sits in the system tray and alerts you when needed."

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Bala Gopala's Mrdanga (formerly Ekendra's Mrdanga)
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CafeKrishna.com run by devotees from Pandava sena
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Candidasa dasa' Deltaflow Blog
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The Conch newsletter - Radha Giridhari temple Auckland
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Gauranga Sundara prabhu in Leicester (UK) Newsletter can be found at:
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Back issues and all future issues can be found at: http://www.gauranga.org/newsletter_backissues.htm

Gopala Guru prabhu's blog on MSN - Religious Worship; Ever wonder what's it like to live the life of a Hare Krishna monk?
Visit this Space to find out.:
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Indradyumna Swami's "Diary of a Travelling Preacher" blog:
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Kavichandra Swami's Blog
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Kurma prabhu's Travel Diary Blog:
Hello there ! I have a new Blog (weblog) Travel Diary. Follow my very latest culinary travels: http://www.kurma.net and click on the blog link right side of page.
Hope all is well with you. Happy cooking, Kurma

Prahladananda Swami's Health blog: On the road, Journal, Audio, Health, Photos etc
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Rati Manjari mataji - Every Town & Village - newsletter, which consists of a collective contribution from preachers throughout the UK. To view or download it click the link below:
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Sit Properly dot com - go to extras 4 the blog - lots of useful info especially for new devotees throughout site
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From the virtual pen of Sita-pati dasa http://blog.worldsankirtan.net/sitapati/
News and views from Sita-pati dasa in Brisbane Australia.

Hare Krishna Cultural Journal - Krishna-Kirti dasa in USA - A commentary on the culture, views and progress of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
http://siddhanta.com/weblogs/culture/

The International Society for Education in Krsna Consciousness http://www.isekc.com/ has a Blog called Vaishnava Sanga which one can access from the ISEKC home page.

News stories, articles, comment, insights, features, and Vaisnava perspectives available on-line from http://www.iskcon.com/new/

Vraj journal
http://www.vrajajournal.com/

Srimad Bhagavad Gita AS IT IS

Bhagavad Gita:  Chapter 5 -  Karma-yoga : Action in Krsna Consciousness

                                TEXT 15

                         nadatte kasyacit papam
                         na caiva sukrtam vibhuh
                          ajnanenavrtam jnanam
                          tena muhyantijantavah

   WORD FOR WORD

   na--never; adatte--accepts; kasyacit--anyone's; papam--sin;
   na--nor; ca--also; eva--certainly; su-krtam--pious activities;
   vibhuh--the Supreme Lord; ajnanena--by ignorance; avrtam--covered;
   jnanam--knowledge; tena--by that; muhyanti--are bewildered;
   jantavah--the living entities.

                               TRANSLATION

   Nor does the Supreme Lord assume anyone's sinful or pious
   activities. Embodied beings, however, are bewildered because of the
   ignorance which covers their real knowledge.

PURPORT by HDG Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad:

   The Sanskrit word vibhu means the Supreme Lord who is full of
   unlimited knowledge, riches, strength, fame, beauty and
   renunciation. He is always satisfied in Himself, undisturbed by
   sinful or pious activities. He does not create a particular
   situation for any living entity, but the living entity, bewildered
   by ignorance, desires to be put into certain conditions of life,
   and thereby his chain of action and reaction begins. A living
   entity is, by superior nature, full of knowledge. Nevertheless, he
   is prone to be influenced by ignorance due to his limited power.
   The Lord is omnipotent, but the living entity is not. The Lord is
   vibhu, or omniscient, but the living entity is anu, or atomic.
   Because he is a living soul, he has the capacity to desire by his
   free will. Such desire is fulfilled only by the omnipotent Lord.
   And so, when the living entity is bewildered in his desires, the
   Lord allows him to fulfill those desires, but the Lord is never
   responsible for the actions and reactions of the particular
   situation which may be desired. Being in a bewildered condition,
   therefore, the embodied soul identifies himself with the
   circumstantial material body and becomes subjected to the temporary
   misery and happiness of life. The Lord is the constant companion of
   the living entity as Paramatma, or the Supersoul, and therefore He
   can understand the desires of the individual soul, as one can smell
   the flavor of a flower by being near it. Desire is a subtle form of
   conditioning for the living entity. The Lord fulfills his desire as
   he deserves: Man proposes and God disposes. The individual is not,
   therefore, omnipotent in fulfilling his desires. The Lord, however,
   can fulfill all desires, and the Lord, being neutral to everyone,
   does not interfere with the desires of the minute independent
   living entities. However, when one desires Krsna, the Lord takes
   special care and encourages one to desire in such a way that one
   can attain to Him and be eternally happy. The Vedic hymns therefore
   declare, esa u hy evasadhu karma karayati tam yam ebhyo lokebhya
   unninisate. esa u evasadhu karma karayati yam adho ninisate: "The
   Lord engages the living entity in pious activities so that he may
   be elevated. The Lord engages him in impious activities so that he
   may go to hell." (Kausitaki Upanisad 3.8)

                         ajno jantur aniso 'yam
                         atmanah sukha-duhkhayoh
                         isvara-prerito gacchet
                       svargam vasv abhram eva ca

 "The living entity is completely dependent in his distress and
   happiness. By the will of the Supreme he can go to heaven or hell,
   as a cloud is driven by the air."

   Therefore the embodied soul, by his immemorial desire to avoid
   Krsna consciousness, causes his own bewilderment. Consequently,
   although he is constitutionally eternal, blissful and cognizant,
   due to the littleness of his existence he forgets his
   constitutional position of service to the Lord and is thus
   entrapped by nescience. And, under the spell of ignorance, the
   living entity claims that the Lord is responsible for his
   conditional existence. The Vedanta-sutras (2.1.34) also confirm
   this. Vaisamya-nairghrnye na sapeksatvat tatha hi darsayati: "The
   Lord neither hates nor likes anyone, though He appears to."

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Copyright 1983 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International. Used with permission.

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Prabhupada Uvacha:
(here's some nectar, sometimes it comes in the form of Srutakirti prabhu's diary, other times from Govinda dasi's diary, Hari Sauri prabhu's Transcendental Diary, or sometimes from a letter, or other related source, but still nectar...)

Little Drops of Nectar: Prabhupada Was Precise

Srila Prabhupada was very precise in his use of words and in his presentation of Krsna consciousness. Once one of his sannyasi disciples was giving a lecture in Prabhupada's presence and he was explaining the absolute nature of the holy name. "Krsna is in His name," the disciple said. Then Prabhupada interrupted him. "Oh, He is in His name? Where in His name is He?" His disciple fell silent. "Krsna is not in His name," Prabhupada explained, "Krsna is His name."

Prabhupada held an initiation in Geneva in 1974. Pusta Krsna Swami performed the fire sacrifice and Prabhupada presided over the yajna from his vyasasana.

The devotees had covered the sacrificial area with cloths of different kinds. One of the cloths that was used was a hari-nama cadar. Pusta Krsna Swami sat on a cushion with his foot on the cadar.

Prabhupada looked down and said, "What is that?" Pusta Krsna said, "What is what, Prabhupada?" Prabhupada said, "What mantra is that?" Pusta Krsna Swami said it was the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. Prabhupada said that it was not the Hare Krsna mantra. Pusta Krsna Swami said yes, it was the Hare Krsna mantra. He said that it was printed in English letters that had been stylized to look like devanagari script, but that it was actually the Hare Krsna mantra. Prabhupada looked down and was silent for a few moments, then he said, "If that is the Hare Krsna mantra, why have you put your foot on the holy name?" Pusta Krsna Swami moved his foot.

- From the Prabhupada Nectar by HH Satsvarupa dasa Goswami

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Please Chant:
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Listen to Srila Prabhupad on-line
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"Serve Krishna Or Serve...Others"

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay

Listen to the entire lecture on-line:
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Prabhupada: Aksara? First of all try to understand. Aksara... Aksara means, "that does not fall down." That is aksara. Aksara and ksara. The spiritual world is aksara, and this material world is ksara. So the living entities or God in the spiritual world, they are all aksara. And in the material world we are all ksara. Therefore aksaram paramam brahma. The Supreme...

Chandobhai: Svabhavo 'dhyatmam.

Prabhupada: Svabhavam.

Dr. Patel: Sva means "own."

Prabhupada: Eh?

Dr. Patel: Bhava means...? Bhava (Gujarati)? Essence, essence.

Prabhupada: Sva-bhavah means nature.

Dr. Patel: Nature. Sva-bhavah...

Chandobhai: Adhyatmam.

Dr. Patel: Adhi-atma. That is the...

Chandobhai: That is real bhava.

Prabhupada: Adhyatma. Adhyatma means bodily and mentally.

Chandobhai: Ah, bodily and mentally, yes.

Dr. Patel: Adhyatma? Bodily and mentally?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Chandobhai: Mentally. Spiritually... Inner existence.

Prabhupada: No. Adhyatmam. Adhyatma. Atma means body, mind and the soul, but here adhyatma means the body and the mind. That is material nature. The body and mind is made of material nature. [break] ...creation.

Chandobhai: Creation, yes.

Prabhupada: So by working with the body, we create another creation.

Dr. Patel: Bhuta-bhavodbhava...

Prabhupada: Just like now I am a human being. Next life I may be a demigod, I may be a dog. That I create. That is sarga.

Dr. Patel: That is karma.

Chandobhai: That is his karma. That is his karma.

Dr. Patel: What is karma?

Prabhupada: Karma, anyone can understand. As you... Fruitive activities. You do something and enjoy the good or bad result. That is karma. You do something, either good or bad. So the result you'll have to suffer or enjoy.

continued.......................

"Glory to the Sri Krishna Samkirtan which cleanses the heart of all the dust accumulated for years together. Thus the fire of conditional life, of repeated birth and death, is extinguished. The Samkirtan Movement is the prime benediction for humanity at large because it spreads the rays of the benediction Moon. It is the life of all transcendental knowledge, it increases the ocean of transcendental bliss, and it helps us to have a taste of the full nectar for which we are always anxious."

(Every Town & Village, album cover)

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What's So Special About Chanting Hare Krishna?
By Stephen Knapp (Sri Nandanandan dasa ACBSP):
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/chanting_hare_krishna.htm

Hare Krishna is NOT "a Cult":
Is ISKCON a Cult or part of the "Hindu Culture" or Something Else?
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Hare Krishna is NOT a Cult letter by Kunti dd editor of Hare Krishna World:
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40+ Years of Krishna Consciousness through Iskcon.........
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Very nice articles and numerous links on the About Hinduism web-site.

What is ISKCON ???
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Is Iskcon a Cult?
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Iskcon and Hinduism
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Agama Tantra and the Vaishnava Samskaras as a way of life:

Recently I was asked, "Don't you find it an inconvenience to always be checking to see when is the right time to do this or the best time for that?"

In simple terms my answer was and still is; if you go to the bus or railway station or airport it is probably an intelligent venture to enquire about the times and routes of vehicles than to just hope that one will be along soon, or one is going in your direction.

There are subtle influences in the Universe that, for thousands of years gone by, advanced cultures have honoured, respected and utilised. Before the corruption of the Vedik literatures by the Christian and Moslem invaders to India all these things were used; Ayurvedik Medicine; Vedik Astrology; etc. Today there's a rennaisance among many to revive these arts.

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aham kratur aham yajnah
svadhaham aham ausadham
mantro 'ham aham evajyam
aham agnir aham hutam

"But it is I who am the ritual, I the sacrifice, the offering to the ancestors, the healing herb,
the transcendental chant. I am the butter and the fire and the offering."(Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-gita 9.16)

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ete cäàça-kaläù puàsaù
kåñëas tu bhagavän svayam
indräri-vyäkulaà lokaà
måòayanti yuge yuge

“All the lists of the incarnations of Godhead submitted herewith are either plenary expansions or parts of the plenary expansions of the Supreme Godhead, but Kåñëa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.” (Srimad Bhagavatam 1.3.28)

rämädi-mürtiñu kalä-niyamena tiñöhan
nänävatäram akarod bhuvaneñu kintu
kåñëaù svayaà samabhavat paramaù pumän yo
govindam ädi-puruñaà tam ahaà bhajämi

“I worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda [Kåñëa], who is always situated in various incarnations such as Räma, Nåsiàha and many subincarnations as well, but who is the original Personality of Godhead known as Kåñëa, and who incarnates personally also.” (Brahma samhita 5:39.)

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A selection of interesting Krishna conscious articles from New Panihati - Atlanta temple USA:
http://newpanihati.tripod.com/NewsGroup/KCNectar/KCNectarMain.htm

Paradigms - where things are not all they seem

Krishna conscious Dramas and plays:
A collection of 88 transcendental dramas assembled and presented for the pleasure of
His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
http://www.cedarpost.com/krsnaconsciousplays/default.htm

Wonderful modern Krishna conscious plays:
http://www.cedarpost.com/krsnaconsciousplays/TableOfContents.htm

These are great for Sunday feasts, or school programs or street presentations, or just for our own understanding.

Read here what Prabhupad says about such plays and dramas:
http://www.cedarpost.com/krsnaconsciousplays/PlaysP2SPquotes.htm

Click on this link to see how really short life is.

http://www.sastradana.com/video/lifeisshort.wmv

thanx again Shyam'

Hare Krsna!

In the download section of my website  http://tinyurl.com/9er95 you will find a copy of Ganguly's complete English translation of the Mahabharata (originally in 13 hardback volumes) in HTML format. It is in a 7.5 MB zipped file.

The Mahabharata explains by example how Lord Krsna's Vedic culture and Varnashrama Dharma are meant to work. Where the Manu Smriti is a concise book of laws for Mankind the Mahabharata shows how those laws are applied. The Mahabharata along with the Ramayana have been the main foundation for the continuation of Vedic culture because they are easily accessible to the masses. The Mahabharata was actually written for the unfortunate people of the Kali Yuga to help uplift them. A close study of the Mahabharata and Ramayana in conjunction with the Manu Samhita would serve as a good guide on how to implement Varnashrama Dharma. And, in conjunction with the Srimad Bhagavatam, insight into Daivi Varnashrama Dharma. The Mahabharata is thus an essential text for anyone interested in implementing VAD.

The Mahabharata is a vast treasure house of Brahminical knowledge and as the Mahabharat itself says: "What is found in the Mahabharata may be found in other texts; whatever is not found in the Mahabharata is not found anywhere."

You will also find a PDF copy  of a canto of Agnivesa's Caraka Samhita (an Ayurvedic text) entitled Sarirasthana, a fascinating account of how the body is formed starting with philosophical details, conception, karmic details, embryology etc. I once gave this text to an obstetrician to read while she was waiting to see me and she was astounded at how much knowledge was contained in such an ancient text. Size 14 MB

Yours faithfully,

Shyamasundara Dasa

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"krsnas tu bhagavan svayam"

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Perhaps we should deck the halls with boughs of spring flowers, because an English astronomer suggested that Jesus might have been born on September 15th, 7 BC.
Dr David Hughes, of Sheffield University, argued that September 15th is the real Christmas for he following reasons:
In the Gospel of St Luke we read that Joseph took Mary to Bethlehem because "... there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed ... and all went to be taxed, every one in his own city." Such a decree occurred about 8 BC.
King Herod was so infuriated that a rival had been born (the "King of the Jews") that he ordered the massacre of all baby boys in Israel, but Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt. They stayed there for two years until Herod's death, said to have closely followed a lunar eclipse. Lunar eclipses occurs in 4 BC and 1 BC.
The distinctive astronomical phenomenon that happened between 8 BC and 1 BC, that could be equated with the Star of Bethlehem, is the conjunction of the giant Jupiter with Saturn in the constellation of Pisces (considered the Zodiac sign of the Jews). This began on May 27th, 7 BC and continued for some months - long enough for the three wise men (astrologer/priests) to follow the phenomenon across country. On September 15th, the Magi (three wise men) would have seen a striking phenomenon, the conjoined rising of this celestial light on the eastern horizon, at sunset.
If Dr Hughes is right, the Magi would have arrived at the inn at Bethlehem with their presents for the Christ child, on the day the star stopped over that town - December 1st, 7 BC.

"25th December has become Christmas Day although almost certainly not the day on which Christ was born, as is popularly supposed. The date was eventually fixed by the Church in AD 440, the day of the winter solstice, which had anciently been a time of festival among heathen peoples. In Anglo-Saxon England, the year began on 25th December, but from the late 12th century until the adoption of the Gregorian Calendar in 1752 the year began on Lady Day, 25th March." (Evans 1988)

Christmas cards
Englishman WCT Dobson is usually regarded as having sent the first Christmas card in 1844. Sir Henry Cole and JC Horsley produced the first commercial Christmas card in 1846, although it was condemned by temperance people because members of the family group in the centrepiece were drinking wine. After Tucks, the art printers, took to printing them in the 1870s, they really came into vogue.

            When we consider the story of how baby Jesus appeared in the heart of his mother Mary by immaculate conception, as well as the bright star appearing in the night sky, we can discern a direct parallel to Lord Krishna’s birth three thousand years earlier in Vrindavana, India, as recorded in the Vedic literature. It is described in the ancient Vedic texts how Krishna appeared in the mind of Vasudeva, Krishna’s father, and was then transferred into the heart of His mother, Devaki. During Krishna’s birth, the bright star Rohini was high in the sky, and the king at the time, Kamsa, actually ordered the killing of all the infants in an attempt to kill Krishna, similar to the way Herod was supposed to have done as described in the gospel of Matthew. And just as a multitude appeared among the shepherds in the hills praising God at the time of Jesus’ birth, there were also many demigods who came and danced and sang about the glories of Krishna when He was ready to appear in this world. Krishna was born in a cave-like dungeon, while Jesus was also born in a cave, although some say a manger in a barn. Rays of light illuminated the area after they had taken birth. While newly born, they both spoke of why they had come to this world. And as wise men were supposed to have presented Jesus with frankincense and myrrh, baby Krishna was also presented with gifts that included sandalwood and perfumes.

            At the time when Krishna left this planet, His foot was pierced with an arrow, while Jesus’ side was pierced with a spear. There was a darkness that descended when Jesus is said to have been crucified, just as there was a darkness and many calamities taking place when Krishna left this world. And as there is a description of many ominous signs that are to signify the second coming of Christ, there are even more symptoms of the terrible age of Kali that we are going through that indicates the time before the coming of Krishna’s next incarnation as Kalki. Many of these I have included in my book, The Vedic Prophecies. There are many other parallels that we could refer to that are disclosed in the Vedas, which were written many hundreds of years before the Bible.

            Jesus preached in a way that can also be compared to the sayings of Krishna. For example, in Bhagavad-gita (7.6-7) Krishna said, “I am the cause of the whole universe, through Me it is created and dissolved, all things are dependant on Me as pearls are strung on a thread.” Jesus said, “Of Him and through Him, and unto Him, are all things. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.” (John 1.3) Krishna had said (Bg.4.7), “For the establishment of righteousness I am born from time to time.” This compares to Jesus in John 18:37, wherein he says, “Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.” These and many other comparisons can be made. Nonetheless, the fact is that the history of Krishna is thousands of years older than that of Jesus.

            In this way, practically speaking, what we find in the Bible regarding Jesus’ birth is a description of the appearance of Lord Krishna, but only the names have been changed. Of course, there are different theories about how this happened. One theory is that when the Christians went to India, they found out that this story was there in the Bhagavat-Purana; so, they immediately had to change the date of when the Bhagavat-Purana was supposed to have been written. So now the historians generally say that it was written about 1400 years ago. Otherwise, how could they explain the story of Krishna’s birth being so similar to the story of Christ’s birth? They thought that the Vedic pundits must have heard about the story of Jesus and adapted the story to their own incarnation, as if the Vedic scholars would demean themselves by putting a story into their scripture that was heard from people who were considered low-born f